What must Ortiz do to win?

[Rebel]

I love how the UFC always hypes up their fights by showing a lot of FREE fights of each combatant on SPIKE TV prior to a big UFC. They got my hyped!

Although I favor Liddell, I really believe that Ortiz has a shot this time. I don't know if he can ultimately pull it off, but I think he'll be really competitive this time. Let's hope I'm right! [img]mex.gif[/img]

So what must he do to have any chance?

[EBIHARA63]

Change his nickname for starters-isn,t Huntington area a rich suburban outfit [img]graemlins/headscratch.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rotf.gif[/img]

[O-Dogg33]

I thought Huntington Beach was like a surfer place? I know Korn lived there for awhile too! [img]graemlins/yo.gif[/img]
Anyway back to the subject. I've been watching UFC 43 Tito vs. Randy and UFC 44 Randy vs Chuck I just to compare how Randy fought them both.
Randy beat Chuck by being aggressive and setting up his takedowns with his punches. He made Chuck fight at a pace that wore him down by the 3rd round. Tito's gotta do the same thing. It ain't easy though as Chuck showed in fights II and III with Randy all he had to do was move side to side and counter.

[Rebel]

Originally posted by EBIHARA63:
Change his nickname for starters-isn,t Huntington area a rich suburban outfit [img]graemlins/headscratch.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rotf.gif[/img]

Not every part is like that. There are many Beaners that pollute that area. [img]mex.gif[/img]

[EBIHARA63]

Even although I havn,t seen much MMA,Ortiz burial ceremony is embarrasing [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rotf.gif[/img]

[O-Dogg33]

What you mean this?! You'll see it on Saturday!

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[O-Dogg33]

Originally posted by Rebel:
I love how the UFC always hypes up their fights by showing a lot of FREE fights of each combatant on SPIKE TV prior to a big UFC. They got my hyped!

Although I favor Liddell, I really believe that Ortiz has a shot this time. I don't know if he can ultimately pull it off, but I think he'll be really competitive this time. Let's hope I'm right! [img]mex.gif[/img]

So what must he do to have any chance?

Here's what one of Tito's training partners said.

Kit Cope:
?Tito vs. Chuck 2 goes like this?Tito fights a smart fight and Chuck fights like Chuck fights. I?m sure Chuck is thinking if it ain?t broke don?t fix it, however Tito is going to come at him with a different strategy. He?s going to hang back. He?s not going to rush forward because Chuck does not take a step forward. He never ever moves forward unless he?s got you hurt already. This is just a prediction, but I think Tito?s going to hang back and make Chuck move forward and if Chuck moves forward, he?s going to be in danger of being taken down. I think its going to be a very boring fight for the first two rounds and then look for Tito?s conditioning to take over right about round three and maybe even press Chuck against the cage. And once Tito?s got that body lock its over. I think it goes the distance though

[handolo]

you guys are fucking delusional. ortiz and his excuses and that STUPID bullshit he does after his fights will be done with this saturday. [img]graemlins/dance.gif[/img]

[Yori Boy]

I can't pinpoint exactly why, but Tito Ortiz is my least favourite MMArtist by far. Maybe it's his name, maybe it's his nickname, maybe it's how he cried like a bitch after losing when calling himself the Badboy, maybe it's all of the above, but the guy annoys me as much as a pro athlete can.

[EBIHARA63]

Will there be any interesting fights on the undercard?

[sanchito]

I dunno shit about MMA but I want to watch this fight after watching a one hour documentary about the fight on TV Azteca.

Looks like Tito got thumbed in the eye prior to falling apart. I dunno if any of you have been thumbed in the eye but it isn't pleasant and it hurts like all hell.

From an untrained eye the win looked flukey. Maybe it'll be different this time. What the fuck do I know? [img]graemlins/555.gif[/img]

[Valdosta]

Originally posted by sanchito:
I dunno shit about MMA but I want to watch this fight after watching a one hour documentary about the fight on TV Azteca.

Looks like Tito got thumbed in the eye prior to falling apart. I dunno if any of you have been thumbed in the eye but it isn't pleasant and it hurts like all hell.

From an untrained eye the win looked flukey. Maybe it'll be different this time. What the fuck do I know? [img]graemlins/555.gif[/img]

Tito lost round 1 (was hurt at the end) and was losing round 2. Not to mention Lidell used to own his ass in sparring. Nothing flukey about it but we will see tonight I guess.

[sanchito]

Originally posted by Valdosta:

Tito lost round 1 (was hurt at the end) and was losing round 2. Not to mention Lidell used to own his ass in sparring. Nothing flukey about it but we will see tonight I guess.

I stand corrected!

[EBIHARA63]

Fuck if Ortiz wins we will all have to enjoy that gay burial ceremony [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] Anything decent on the undercard for those who arn,t totally familiar with UFC??

[Valdosta]

Originally posted by sanchito:

I stand corrected!

I agree the eye poke was kinda flukey but it seemed like it was going to end that way anyways. Tito's takedown's didn't even come close and he wasn't going to win standing with Chuck.

[Valdosta]

Originally posted by EBIHARA63:
Fuck if Ortiz wins we will all have to enjoy that gay burial ceremony [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] Anything decent on the undercard for those who arn,t totally familiar with UFC??

Griffen-Jardine should be a good fight.

[EBIHARA63]

Originally posted by Valdosta:

Griffen-Jardine should be a good fight.

Thank you

[Valdosta]

Originally posted by EBIHARA63:

Thank you

No problem. I think the other televised fights are Arlovski-De pano,Bisping-Schafer and Leben-MacDonald. Arlovski and Bisping are way better at stand up than the guys they are fighting and Schafer and De Pano probably can't get them down so Arlovski and Bisping should win easy. Not sure how Leben-MacDonald will play out but the other 2 should be KO's for Bisping and Arlovski.

[Beyond the Grave]

I think Tito's standup is good enough too use the stradegy Jackson used to beat Liddel,mix the standup and the wrestling and use controlled aggression and he can win this fight...................but actually doing it is a different story but you have too be foolish to think Tito doesn't have a shot tonight.

EDIT:I also forgot too add that defense will be crucial for Tito in this fight,after he throws or lands his punches he should always ALWAYS bring the gaurd up afterwards or go for the clinch or takedown,he should not give Chuck the chance too counter that's something I thought Jackson did a brilliant job of and it forced Chuck too be more aggressive than usual and in the end wear himself out.

[ December 30, 2006, 03:19 PM: Message edited by: Beyond the Grave ]

[Rebel]

Originally posted by Beyond the Grave:
you have too be foolish to think Tito doesn't have a shot tonight.

You think? [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img]

[BJ*]

I can understand wanting to see Chuck lose...but to root for Tito as the one to do it is strange...he is annoying as fuck.

The eyepoke is a Chuck specialty...he is a KemPoke practicioner afterall.

The undercards suck ass.

I am boycotting becuz apparently Chris Leben is still blowing Dana White and is on TV once again...that guy is like watching grass grow... [img]graemlins/sleeping.gif[/img] ...

This is one shitty overhyped card...

[Beyond the Grave]

Originally posted by BJ*:
I can understand wanting to see Chuck lose...but to root for Tito as the one to do it is strange...he is annoying as fuck.

The eyepoke is a Chuck specialty...he is a KemPoke practicioner afterall.

The undercards suck ass.

I am boycotting becuz apparently Chris Leben is still blowing Dana White and is on TV once again...that guy is like watching grass grow... [img]graemlins/sleeping.gif[/img] ...

This is one shitty overhyped card...

I think people are comparing it too the last UFC cards not MMA altogether.personnally I think Pride Shockwave shits on this show.

[EBIHARA63]

That English dude was way too good -very impressive Mr Bisping

[Valdosta]

Bisping is pretty good but I was worried for him a couple of times on the ground. Schafer is damn slick.

[Valdosta]

[img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] Leben taking a nap

[EBIHARA63]

What about the Dean of mean-fuck he is a scary looking Dude :eek: [img]graemlins/rotf.gif[/img]

[Valdosta]

Yeah Jardine is a decent fighter. Surprised he bashed Griffen like that though. Griffen has always shown a reliable chin in the UFC.

[Yori Boy]

Just about to start. My predicton, Ortiz by GnP kayo in 4 as Liddell was spotted partying it up with ho's last night.

[Yori Boy]

Liddell wins. what a joke. Setting up the Rampage rematch. lol

[Beyond the Grave]

Liddell's alway's partying before a fight [img]graemlins/drunk.gif[/img] ....but anyway Tito came in with a bad game plan........actually the same one he used the last time [img]graemlins/lol.gif[/img] He didn't mixup his attack too keep Chuck guessing,it was either one thing or another but at least Tito caught Chuck a few time and knicked him up which is not a good sign for Chuck because Tito's standup is ok but nothing special..........Jackson's standup is on a whole nother level compared too Tito's and better at switching up his attack more fluidly.


EDIT: I'm also happy Keith Jardine got the win,he made this man 20 bones richa. [img]graemlins/muscle.gif[/img]

[ December 30, 2006, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Freeze motherf***er ]