View Full Version : Another Mayweather/Brian Kenny Interview
Rebel
07-18-2009, 09:43 AM
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1. I don't recally PBF ever sounding so confused.
2. PBF doesn't sound like the same fighter we've grown accustomed to in the past. It seems like he's now more willing to admit that the potential to lose fights is present. He also lacks the cockiness he once possessed.
Hut*Hut
07-18-2009, 10:06 AM
What a douche that guy is.
Anyway....
'I know it's not possible for me to fight 3 times a year'. ???
Alabama_Man
07-18-2009, 10:20 AM
Does anyone else notice Mayweather always seems like he's about to "erupt"?
The day this guy takes a 10 count, his whole world is going to collapse around him.
LOL! Floyd Mayweather is notorious for not answering questions directly..
Attraction
07-18-2009, 11:50 AM
Floyd seems to be having difficulty starting his sentences at times.
"It's like I, It's like I, It's like I, It's like I said before..."
Jack1000
07-18-2009, 01:11 PM
Does anyone else notice Mayweather always seems like he's about to "erupt"?
The day this guy takes a 10 count, his whole world is going to collapse around him.
And maybe 5 people out of a million are going to care if Mayweather is troubled. The day Mayweather loses in the ring is the day I celebrate. Do you think that the reason he doesn't like to face hard punchers (in his own weight class) is he is terrified of losing to them?
Jack
Attraction
07-19-2009, 05:25 AM
And maybe 5 people out of a million are going to care if Mayweather is troubled. The day Mayweather loses in the ring is the day I celebrate. Do you think that the reason he doesn't like to face hard punchers (in his own weight class) is he is terrified of losing to them?
Jack
DLH was a harder puncher than anyone currently in his weight class. Corrales was a hard puncher.
Floyd isn't afraid of losing to anybody.
gregg
07-19-2009, 05:33 AM
Corrales was a legit fight, to me the Delahoya fight was a joke, and many feel Castillo beat him in the first fight. He will go down soon in fact it won't shock me if Marquez doesn't pull it off.
Hut*Hut
07-19-2009, 05:48 AM
Remember in the early part of the decade when the split between Arum & Floyd was first brewing because of the whole 'slave contract' thing etc? Arum commented on Floyd's attitude really not suiting his naturally 'effervescent' personality. :lol:
okay...i am 6 minutes in and so far Floyd seems VERY reasonable.
he's right...Marquez brings an audience that Mosley would not.
he's also right about the cheating (Shane and Margarito)
Kenny is trying to bait him, but Floyd, thus far has been a cool cucumber...
i'll keep watching....
done watching...you guys must be watching this WANTING to hate the guy...
i don't like Floyd, but had this been the FIRST time I ever heard him speak, I would not dislike him based on this. He was actually somewhat likeable and funny...
:headscratch:
the ONLY think that rubs the wrong way is at the end when he says no way he fights Pac for 50/50...but he wasn't an obnoxious prick...he just (like MANY boxing stars of the past) overestimates his worth...
a little bit of the "how much money i got" talk...but that was Brian Kenny PULLING that out of him.
shit...i may switch sides and be a Floyd fan based on this interview :lol:
Lefty
07-19-2009, 07:09 AM
I'm liking Floyd more and more every interview I'm seeing of him now.
He's maturing into a sharp cookie, and is a lot better at expressing himself.
zboxz
07-19-2009, 07:47 AM
After a layoff PFB had time to cool off and sees the low numbers he draws he will do what is right for business.
his opponents have been the draw and he really did not thing that was true.
It is hard to talk smack when nobody will pay to see you.
This kid can be very endearing and has star power if he uses this personality correctly. He must learn to separate the man from the business.
Rebel
07-19-2009, 08:23 AM
okay...i am 6 minutes in and so far Floyd seems VERY reasonable.
he's right...Marquez brings an audience that Mosley would not.
he's also right about the cheating (Shane and Margarito)
Kenny is trying to bait him, but Floyd, thus far has been a cool cucumber...
i'll keep watching....
Those are excuses. Mosley has never been found guilty of knowingly abusing roids nor was Margarito exposed for cheating (one bout only) until after PBF had retired.
That wasn't the point Rebel.
As for Cotto, I found it interesting that Mayweather mentioned him as undefeated, maybe the boxing world is throwing out the Margacheato fight?
Rebel
07-19-2009, 10:17 AM
That wasn't the point Rebel.
As for Cotto, I found it interesting that Mayweather mentioned him as undefeated, maybe the boxing world is throwing out the Margacheato fight?
That was the point.
BJ is justifying his ducking ways, and I pointed out how those weren't valid reasons for previously ducking those fighters.
That was the point.
BJ is justifying his ducking ways, and I pointed out how those weren't valid reasons for previously ducking those fighters.
But in the interview, it had nothing to do with him ducking them, he said that you don't know how many titles they would've won without the cheating..
Rebel
07-19-2009, 10:46 AM
But in the interview, it had nothing to do with him ducking them, he said that you don't know how many titles they would've won without the cheating..
My impression was that he brought those things up to disqualify them as worthy opponents in the past. Meanwhile, he talks up Baldomir like he was the reincarnation of Monzon.
My impression was that he brought those things up to disqualify them as worthy opponents in the past. Meanwhile, he talks up Baldomir like he was the reincarnation of Monzon.
No he didn't. He simply reiterated what the boxing media told him. That Baldomir was the Welterweight champ and he'd need to beat him to become the lineal champ.
Rebel
07-19-2009, 10:59 AM
No he didn't. He simply reiterated what the boxing media told him. That Baldomir was the Welterweight champ and he'd need to beat him to become the lineal champ.
He's basically trying to destroy their credibility by stating they're cheaters. In other words, he believes no one should get on his case for never facing those guys because they're cheaters in his eyes.
That's BS.
Mosley has never been convicted of knowingly taking an illegal substance, and Margarito was only busted in ONE fight.
BTW, keep in mind that at one point he's referring to a conversation they'd previously had and some comments Mosley made on that same show.
Whether Mosley knowingly took steroids or not doesn't matter. He still got the results of taking steroids, so he gets the flak of being called a cheater that goes along with it.
Margacheato was caught trying to bring a weapon into the ring, Mayweather doesn't need to destroy his credibility, Cheato did that himself.
Rebel
07-19-2009, 11:38 AM
Whether Mosley knowingly took steroids or not doesn't matter. He still got the results of taking steroids, so he gets the flak of being called a cheater that goes along with it.
Margacheato was caught trying to bring a weapon into the ring, Mayweather doesn't need to destroy his credibility, Cheato did that himself.
Mosley has never been busted for any of that, and what Margarito was planning on doing in the Mosley fight doesn't mean he cheated previously. There's no proof.
Mosley has never been busted for any of that, and what Margarito was planning on doing in the Mosley fight doesn't mean he cheated previously. There's no proof.
So what? His own admission is more credible than being busted for it.
And as for Margacheato, it only takes one time, once a cheat, always a cheat.
Attraction
07-19-2009, 01:33 PM
Mosley has admitted roiding.
As for Margarito, he's a plain scumbag. He fucked himself up by trying to bring a weapon in the ring. If he did it against Mosley, chances are he did it against Cotto and who know whoever else. Golden Johnson who he KOd in a round might have also been a case. Cintron could also have been a case. He was just a plain scumbag and I would find it hard now to criticize Floyd for not fighting either one.
The Cotto fight looks like a classic case of plaster.
1: As the plaster activated, Margarito began to do more damage.
2: Cotto became more damaged and damaged despite not being hit with clean blows(Plaster does damage regardless of target)
3: The plaster victim becomes more susceptible to being hit(the usually innacurate Margacheato becomes accurate)
4: Cotto was incredibly damaged after the fight. (Plaster beating)
Also, Margacheato is known to be a slow starter and gets stronger as the fight wears on.
Possible reasons.
1: The sweat activates the plaster, which takes a bit of time.
2: The inaccurate Margacheato hits in the arms, body and head, eventually beginning to hurt the victim, and slow them down.
Cheato certainly did neither of these things with Mosely, he got dominated from start to finish, and only did worse whenhe was supposedly suppose to get stronger.
Rebel
07-19-2009, 06:07 PM
So what? His own admission is more credible than being busted for it.
And as for Margacheato, it only takes one time, once a cheat, always a cheat.
All he said was that he unknowingly took some stuff from Balco. To date, he's never been busted for any of it.
Yes, as we all know, BALCO was working on an acne removal product and Shane thought he was taking proactive...
Rebel
07-19-2009, 06:59 PM
Yes, as we all know, BALCO was working on an acne removal product and Shane thought he was taking proactive...
Just like RJJ? :smiles::
RJJ took Ripped Fuel. Thats not related to BALCO. And it certainly isn't a perfomance enhancer.
Rebel
07-19-2009, 07:08 PM
RJJ took Ripped Fuel. Thats not related to BALCO. And it certainly isn't a perfomance enhancer.
How do you know what he really took? Were you there in his kitchen preparing his shakes, injecting his buttocks with water? :wink7:
I knew what he tested positive for, and I'm no expert, I'm only slightly informed on the subject, but I don't think you inject supplements?
Rebel
07-19-2009, 07:19 PM
I knew what he tested positive for, and I'm no expert, I'm only slightly informed on the subject, but I don't think you inject supplements?
Yeah, it wouldn't be a good idea to inject oneself with whey protein or creatine. :slap::haha:
Yeah, it wouldn't be a good idea to inject oneself with whey protein or creatine. :slap::haha:
I think creatine can be injected..
Also, how come you keep changing your argument every 5 seconds, you are just diverting people away from the fact that Mosely is a roider..
Rebel
07-19-2009, 07:33 PM
I think creatine can be injected..
I wouldn't ever dare try. :haha:
Rebel
07-19-2009, 07:35 PM
Also, how come you keep changing your argument every 5 seconds, you are just diverting people away from the fact that Mosely is a roider..
I've already stated my points. He's never been fined/busted for any of that crap. And unless you're his new gf, you don't know what he's doing these days. If I had to bet, I'd bet he's damn clean.
You are ignoring the main picture! Mosely roided up, admittedly! Period. He's a cheat.
BKING
07-20-2009, 05:07 AM
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1. I don't recally PBF ever sounding so confused.
2. PBF doesn't sound like the same fighter we've grown accustomed to in the past. It seems like he's now more willing to admit that the potential to lose fights is present. He also lacks the cockiness he once possessed.
Eventually he will lose. There are some people who don't believe Floyd will ever lose. They ALL lose, unless they retire undefeated early in their careers or heaven forbid the pass away early.
I think Floyd will get past Marquez. Two guys stand the greatest chance of a beating Floyd right now, and that's Pacquiao and Shane Mosley. In regards to the Mosley fight, it's about styles. Mosley knows how to immitate Floyd's style, which is why Oscar brought him into training camp leading up to his fight with Floyd. Floyd's father even acknowledges that Mosley is a threat to Floyd. Floyd, Jr realizes that Mosley is a serious threat too, regardless of whether or not he'll actually admit that. I don't care what anybody says; Mosley are Marquez are pretty much in the same category when it comes to selling a fight and where they stand in PPV headliners.
Whenever Brian Kenny questions Mosley as a legitimate opponent for Floyd, Floyd's quick to point out that Marquez is a PPV attraction who's been on the A-side, but Mosley has never been. That's where Floyd is completely off his rocker. It's just the opposite. Mosley's been on the A-side of PPV before (rematch with Fernando Vargas in July of 2006); it's Marquez who has not. Floyd also tried to say that Mosley's been on undercards recently, referring to his fight on the undercard of Barrera/Peden in 05. That was at least a PPV undercard. He fails to remember that JMM was fighting Derrick Gainer in the opener of an HBO WCB boxing card (November 2003) in which he was the main event.
This is not to dog JMM. I'm just supporting Mosley, when Mayweather claims that he is not attraction. I'm not trying to say that Mosley is as big of a star as Mayweather or DLH or any of the big superstars who can sell a fight by themselves. I'm just saying that Mosley is at least on the same boat as JMM, but Mayweather - who by his own admission fights for checks now a days rather than bragging rights, uses that argument for Mosley because he realizes Mosley is a much bigger threat.
Floyd's rib injury and the causes surrounding it, raises questions if somebody lands a good shot to his body.
BKING
07-20-2009, 05:50 AM
Allow me to correct myself. I forgot about the Casamayor fight. Marquez/Casamayor was a PPV headliner and Marquez, the bigger name in that fight, was on the A-side. Still, Marquez and Mosley are pretty much in the same boat.
Alabama_Man
07-20-2009, 07:57 AM
Mayweather is wrong about Marquez being a PPV draw. I mean how many PPV cards has Marquez headlined, and one of them was with one of the biggest draws in the sport, Pacquiao.
Mayweather should be fighting Mosley, not Marquez, this fight is BS.
BKING
07-20-2009, 08:12 AM
I don't think either of them are PPV attractions by themselves - neither Marquez or Mosley. I'm just debating Mayweather's justification for Marquez as an opponent and his criticism of Mosley for not being a worthy opponent because he's NOT an attraction.
Mayweather has not yet fought Pacquiao because "he didn't call me out. (certainly can not accuse him of not being an attraction. He TOO has a COUNTRY behind him.)"
Mayweather has not yet fought Mosley because, "he's not a PPV attraction (yet Marquez is?)".
Floyd is off his rocker when he talks like that. I hope he fights better after a year and a half of inactivity than he's been talking.
Marquez brings hispanic boxing fans...Mosley is just another black dude...(not that he's "just another black dude") ...but Mosley can attract no one above and BEYOND what Floyd would already pull in...get it?
that's Floyd's point and he's right. Mexicans will pay for all sorts of shitty pay per views if it involves one of their own...so JMM on the ticket means you capture that audience...pretty smart really...it may in fact be bullshit...but the logic is sound.
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