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Brawler
05-07-2007, 04:28 AM
It was extremely EFFECTIVE. If it didn't connect to the head, he was throwing it to the chest, driving Mayweather backwards and making him reset and with that STUPID smile on his face, every time he landed it.

He could have used it as his FOUNDATION for follow ups with the left hook and body attack and CRUISE to a decision.

Mayweather SR would have TOLD him. "You could beat my son easy, man. USE YOUR FUCKING JAB then prrrrrrrrr....where's my 2 million?"

TyrantT316
05-07-2007, 04:29 AM
Because he was getting frustrated and tired. Mayweather's opponents can fade in fights after the miss a lot and get countered.

Even though DLH was frustrated, he was still the most determined of Mayweather's opponents next to Castillo.

andrew
05-07-2007, 04:30 AM
Because Floyd started using his. DLH slowed and was getting the fcuk countered out of him

Brawler
05-07-2007, 04:40 AM
Because Floyd started using his. DLH slowed and was getting the fcuk countered out of him

I thought Mayweather only countered off the ropes. When they were in the middle of the ring, it was ONE shot at a time when Oscar was INACTIVE and not when Oscar was JABBING.

andrew
05-07-2007, 04:46 AM
I thought Mayweather only countered off the ropes. When they were in the middle of the ring, it was ONE shot at a time when Oscar was INACTIVE and not when Oscar was JABBING.

Floyd was countering him everywhere when DLH got tired. The jab lost its effectiveness after round 5 and so did DLH.

Axendancy
05-07-2007, 04:55 AM
Unfortunately, De La Hoya abandoned his effective jab, which appeared to be more a function of getting popped with snappy right hands by Mayweather. DLH could not sustain the pressure once he lost his speed, which happens when a fighter ages. De La Hoya wouldn't, or couldn't, follow the instructions from his corner. Freddie Roach wanted to him to stay on his toes and counter Mayweather's right with his own. That would have involved taking more chances.

mex fighter
05-07-2007, 06:13 AM
don't give me any of that crap....no one noticed his jab until stewart brought it up and wouldn't shut up about it afterwards.

everyone was noticing how oscar was trying to corner him and work the body only.

TIP
05-07-2007, 09:17 AM
It was extremely EFFECTIVE. If it didn't connect to the head, he was throwing it to the chest, driving Mayweather backwards and making him reset and with that STUPID smile on his face, every time he landed it.

He could have used it as his FOUNDATION for follow ups with the left hook and body attack and CRUISE to a decision.

Mayweather SR would have TOLD him. "You could beat my son easy, man. USE YOUR FUCKING JAB then prrrrrrrrr....where's my 2 million?"

I didn't understand it either. Everyone in the place I was at were yelling throw the jab. Stewart pointed out that at no time when he threw the jab was he countered and I don't recall anytime either. I couldn't hear what the corner was telling him but one of the announcers said Hopkins was yelling at him to use the jab. TIP

Ludovico
05-07-2007, 08:30 PM
He couldn't catch Floyd and was very weary of Floyd counterpunching.

Mark G
05-07-2007, 09:59 PM
I think De la Hoya's stamina only allowed him to throw a certain amount of punches. He fought in spurts for much of the night. I don't think he had the energy to throw jabs that were snappy enough to be counter-proof.

raisedfist
05-08-2007, 01:06 AM
I had a saw throat from yelling out use your fucking jab"",it was working well not letting floyd get set ,keeping him the on the backfoot and negating his speed and most importantly it was setting his other shots up, couldnt for the life of me understand how he got away from it.

TIP
05-08-2007, 05:33 AM
I think De la Hoya's stamina only allowed him to throw a certain amount of punches. He fought in spurts for much of the night. I don't think he had the energy to throw jabs that were snappy enough to be counter-proof.

Thats a plausible explanation, however, he didn't have any jabs countered during the fight. I tend to think he wanted to knock Floyd out and looked for power punches. I don't think he was to tired out, there really wasn't much happening that would have caused it. Regardless, abandoning his jab was IMO the major turning point of the fight. TIP

Remus
05-08-2007, 06:14 AM
I don't think he was to tired out, there really wasn't much happening that would have caused it.

i would normally agree with this, a logical explanation. BUT de la homo does have a reputation for taking the mid-late rnds off and then trying to rally big for the last 1 or 2. who knows perhaps part of floyds plan was also to take advantage of this time where dlh goes into his shell somewhat.

i tend to think that similar to the zab fight, floyd found his range and timing and was making it much more difficult for dlh to land it and follow thru without being countered.

if dlh was losing alot of rnds early i might tend to agree more, but dlh must have know at that point he was ahead or level on the cards so didn;t NEED to go for a KO at that stage of the fight.

Tug
05-08-2007, 08:08 AM
ODLH got tired simple as that. After round 7 there were long periods when he walked PBF down but didn't throw anything. Floyd was able to potshot and move preventing Oscar from getting set while picking up points for nothing punches that had Oscar been busier and throwing would not have been been counted. Watch ODLH's right as well; as the fight went on it became much more clubbing and looping after rnd 7.